Since Im only in it for myself as a retirement hobby and not a career Im not big on documenting all the details, but would like to preserve recordings as best as possible. (I guess thats what happens when you "assume", LOL). Typically I dont need to access the audio folder but good to know audio is saved there in some form to recover if needed, I guess I just figured midi files were also somehow saved independently from project somewhere as well. Thanks for info, I guess I have a lot of "back tracking" to do, LOL Im pretty much same, i.e., midi and soft synths except for all guitars and all vocals. Stratman70 I am all about midi and soft synths except for all guitars and all vocals. This almost "ad" like post serve only once purpose, show alternatives. If someone prefer to get out of one hole just to immediately fall into the other, I respect even that. but I am a programmer! So it will be there I respect the right to make own decisions. are in CWPs, collecting the dust inside HDD folders? I prefer "4 clicks solution". And in case someone still want all MIDI in separate MIDI files, why not make an option in the DAW to allow that? Can it be that easy? Yes! But what to do in case MIDI clips, FX chains and presets, automations, etc. The program abandoned - 50 lines script can retrieve MIDI clip from the project (and you do not need to be a programming genie to write it). And yes! There is exactly one DAW which developers thoughts well correlate with my own For data preservation: why not save projects into READABLE text file? Including MIDI, FX presets and everything else? Project corrupted - "copy/paste" tracks/clips in any text editor. Sonar was my first DAW and with all respect to it, as a programmer, I have many times asked myself the question: "Why? Am I stupid?" So looking for the next DAW I had that question in mind, with a hope and least one DAW developers also think that data preservation should not be complicated and overall what can be simple should be done simple. Even more tricky with FX chains and presets. D&D a MIDI clip from Sonar to desktop and back - slip edits cut, clip name not there, position unknown.